I am on an anti-Candida diet and taking supplements as well. How long does it usually take to get rid of oral thrush? My practitioner recommends being on this diet for at least 4 months. After one month, I ate some food that wasn't permitted for a few days and the thrush returned. Also, I am taking GSE. Do I need the oil of oregano in addtion, or is GSE enough?

Again, candida never totally goes away. It's always present. If you're body is functioning normally, it prevents overgrowth -- of which thrush is a manifestation. The fact that the thrush returned so quickly in your case means two things. One, the candida was not truly under control. It was just in a state of lesser overgrowth. It can't return that quickly if you really had eliminated the overgrowth. And two, your immune system is not up to speed. Ultimately, it's your immune system that keeps candida under control. In answer to your question, if you are agressive with the antipathogens, it is possible to beat the candida back in one to two weeks. Then if you keep your immune system running at peak, it should not come back easily -- even if you eat badly for a few days. With a strong immune system you can be quite abusive in your diet (not recommended, by the way) for quite a long time and still not have candida problems.

Jon

I had suffered from Candida for years. Been on the Diet and taken supplements etc.
But it wasn't untill I went to Sydney Australia and went to a N.A,E.T practioner was I able to get rid of the yeast.. my stomach went down along with everything esle that goes with Candida Get yourself to a N.A.E.T. Doctor right away within 25 hours I was a new person www.neat.com

I was told once if you gargle your mouth with Baking Soda and Water you can keep thrush away from your mouth.
It is the cheapest and best mouthwash there is.

Jon, when I use proteoltic enzyme supplements
I have pressure, and eventually so much pain when I urinate, seems like my urine becomes so concentrated that the last time I continue taking them it caused a tear in the urethea entrance. Could you possible tell me why this happens (I took 2 tablets morning an nite, your product)I notice the same type of problem when I use the product coral calicum. Please give me some answers

Normally, I wouldn't post a product testimonial on the blog, but I think it's important to see that the protocol outlined above actually works, and besides, not all the products listed are mine. Anyway, this is an email that was sent to Baseline Nutritionals, which they then forwarded on to me.

"I just had to write you so you can pass this on to Jon. For almost a year, I had problems with my digestion with bloating, etc. In Feb 2007 I found out I had Candida (3+ out of 5). After being on Super ViraGon and Kolorex for 4 weeks, I had another test done and it came out NEGATIVE! I also did 2 weeks of Magic Metal and Colon Detoxifier with the Super VirGgon, and, of course, the Candida diet. Unbelievable! I was told that it could take MONTHS to get rid of this infection.

"Please tell Jon that his products and advice saved my life! Thanks."

Hello,
After years of having adult acne, I learned about Candida, which I have due to prolonged use of antibiotics from my dermatologist. It has been 2 weeks and I am pumping myself with Candida Cleanse products, probiotics, green superfoods, Traditional chinese medicine herbs, burdock root, olive leaf, aloe vera juice, garlic, apple pectin, and other herbal supplements. I have been using an enema once a week. My question is, how do I know if the yeast is being killed, how do I know if it is leaving my body or not, and how long does it generally take for the Candida overgrowth to be under control, like a regular person's?
Thanks

This question was actually answered above.

Again, candida never totally goes away. It's always present. If you're body is functioning normally, it prevents overgrowth. Ultimately, it's your immune system that keeps candida under control. You know it's under control when you have no symptoms -- assuming the symptoms are actually coming from candida.

In answer to your question, if you are agressive with the antipathogens(assuming they are of sufficient quality), it is possible to beat the candida back in one to two weeks. Then if you keep your immune system running at peak, it should not come back easily -- even if you eat badly for a few days. With a strong immune system you can be quite abusive in your diet (not recommended, by the way) for quite a long time and still not have candida problems.

Incidentally, in the supplements you list I don't see any immune builders or probiotics.

Thanks for the data thus far. Is systemic candida capable of infecting the lungs and esophageal passage?

Also, have you heard of or can recommend ThreeLac? I hear its pretty good.

Thanks

Yes, candida can absolutely move into the esophagus. It's actually quite common in HIV/AIDs patients. And candida spores can make their way into the lungs too. Treatment remains the same.

As for ThreeLac, give it a try. Then come back and let us know how it worked.

Hi Jon,

Just getting back to you on the Three-Lac thing to report my conclusions.

It's been a few months on the product, take 2-3 minimum a day up to about 5 total. I believe the stuff does work. But I believe that it's effectiveness is amplified by a multi-faceted approach.

In other words, concurrent to taking Three-Lac, I also cut out all sugars (things with oses) and even fruits initially. I also cut out alcohol (wines here and there). I also cut out flours, ie. breads, tortillas, etc. I never really had soda or chips type stuff before so nothing to cut.

But I also took (and still take) your Private Reserve in the afternoons. I instituted some exercise into the regimen and took enzymes with means and proteolytics before bed on an empty stomach (your proteolytics and enzymes).

This multiple approach took me physically out of the red. Since that time I also then cut out carbs totally and have just had less than about 130g of different meat or fish and veggies - all organic of course. Occasionally I will have fruit between meals. If you don't eat the fruit with the meat then it tends to digest fast which is anti-candida friendly for touchy systems.

ThreeLac is a definitely winner ... it targets the candida specifically, but like waging a war, its good to have a commander, communications, and other supporting troops on the flanks and I believe the above are the things which helped me to take a multi-faceted approach to resolving my problem (which was definitely systemic).

By the way, while it is believed that it takes several months to handle systemic candida one can get it under control rather quickly with some changes, like those above. (I haven't reverted to sugars or anything either). And on top of this I lost 30 pounds by changing the eating habits which definitel helps with the elimination of candida.

Hi Jon,

Are the probiotics taken at the same time as the anti pathogens?

Or are the probiotics taken after the antipathogen regimen?

I heard that many of the antipathogens will also kill off the friendly bacteria.

Also, can you take the antipathogens while doing the intestinal cleanse?

I guess........is there a specific order in which to carry out the assault?

Thank you.

It depends somewhat on which antipathogens you use. Some are more damaging to good bacteria than others. Colloidal silver, goldenseal, and pharmaceutical antibiotics tend to be more aggressive. Garlic, on the other hand, tends to be much kinder to probiotics. In any case, it's best to separate the times you take them. If you're using Super Viragon, for example, take your probiotics an hour after taking the Viragon -- preferably before bed, which allows them time to establish themselves in the intestinal tract. And yes, you can take antipathogens while doing the intestinal cleanse. Just be sure to take them 20 minutes before, or an hour after, using the intestinal detox formula -- to minimize the chances of the detox formula absorbing the antipathogens.

I have stuggle with lung candida for over 2 years. It really started with my lips burning and than my tongue.I have try just about every thing including supplements mention here. Of course I have gone the medical route too. Every kind of specialist too. I am on a low carb diet and have lost about 35 lbs. (use to weigh 155) I am very depressed and at a low point in my life. Where do you think I went wrong?

Joe R.
I also have struggled with lung candida, in fact my candida was everywhere in my body effecting more than I realized. I had a chronic migrane headache that would never go away. Floaters in my eyes, a vaginal yeast infection that I've had for years, it also caused me to feel like I had a mild bladder infection all of the time. I was drinking up to a gallon of water every day just to stay comfortable. Not to mention extreme fatigue. I had tried everything, threelac for a year or better. I'd been on fluconasole for over a year. I'd even tried some different homeopathic remedies, nothing even touched what I had. My candida was so entrenched in my tissues I thought I would never be free of it.
My friend told me about a 30 day program she and her daughter had gone on for candida and fibromyalsia and that the results were excellent. I was scepticle but desperate. I started the program through the M'lis company with mixed results. My headaches went away and I felt alot better but I was still having some symptoms. After 2 months and alot of frustration I realized the soy milk I was drinking had organic cane juice in it (or in other words, sugar).
The M'lis company worked one on one with me to resolve my candida. When we realized why I hadn't been clearing they had me start the program over again. I'm currently half way through and I've been symptom free for a week or so now. This is the first time in years that I haven't had symptoms. This program works. It's not easy, but it does work. I'm living proof. I hope this helps.